Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever

下周上映啦。
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我觉得冲着Riri这首single就值得去看看了。
Her voice had gain so much more depth and it came through beautifully in “Lift Me Up”. Her chest voice was powerfully piercing and her head voice was velvety and mellow - a great performance.

To Chadwick

我一直搞不清楚自己是出于偏见歧视还是真心不喜欢这个主题,第一集我就觉得不好看。

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Really?
I loved it! And I usually have 0 tolerance to Marvel fantasies :upside_down_face:

我也不喜欢。我觉得整个主题充满了黑命贵的味道
从一开始那个坏人在博物馆说那些东西都是白人抢来的那一刻,我就特别不喜欢。我看个爆米花电影还得接受一些仇恨教育,实在是没必要。

虽然我很喜欢黑豹这个角色,也喜欢这个男演员,但是政治正确毁了整个剧

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Curious lol 貌似同胞们对BLM特反感:nerd_face: might I ask why?
@masam Chadwick was all about BLM and the right of minorities- all the way till his death.

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Yep it can be awfully boring sometimes. But I’d say as a migrant I’ve been a beneficiary of it more times than I realised, so I don’t tend to moan that much. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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不知道这个比喻恰当不恰当,就好像我某天突然心血来潮,约朋友出去吃几十块钱的路边摊,结果菜上来了,服务员硬发了一套刀叉让我按照标准西餐礼仪去吃。
并不是觉得西餐礼仪不好,不过跟我吃的菜很不搭嘎。毕竟我本来是怀着轻松的心情出来吃饭的,并不想被硬逼着想起西餐礼仪。

同理 漫威电影本就不是什么有特别深度的电影,我去电影院就想开开心心,结果被硬教育白人抢了虚构的瓦坎达宝贝。
我要是想看这种值得深思的电影,我就去看撞车了,谁会想看黑豹呢

我反感的不是黑命贵本身,而是他们无孔不入,总想给人提醒的特性。
这也是政治正确过犹不及的地方

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过犹不及的政治正确还有LGBTQ的骄傲月。
每年的7月份我们东北部有pride游行,今年我闲着无聊想约我基友三人去凑热闹。
结果他们两个人都略带嫌弃表示的不想去。因为pride游行每隔几天就在各大城市轮番上演,让他们自己都觉得有点in to 大众的face了,有点挑战社会的容忍度。如此频繁的在大众面前游行,反而会让普通人觉得有点疲劳,甚至反感。
他们觉得如果是骄傲周,或者骄傲天,大家商量好了各大城市一起游行庆祝,他们心理上会觉得更舒服一些。

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我知道,并且我也尊重他的政治立场,我更不会因为他支持BLM就觉得他是个不好的演员,他在我心中还是非常hot。
但这并不是我必须喜欢黑豹的理由。
我看黑豹的初衷就是只是单纯的想看帅哥大战外星人而已

The black panther party was like the original BLM after all

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While “pride month” is just an opportunity for big cooperations to rainbow wash everything and get some extra pink money, pride itself is ALL about visibility and being “in your face”.

I think your friends might be from the generation that still feel like sexuality isn’t something that should be put in public display, and LGBT rights in Britain is at the forefront of the world so we mustn’t “upset the straights”.

The fact is that certain aspects of gay rights are still far from “equal”, and there are counter movements constantly trying to erode what rights there are right now. Unless the group as a whole stays visible, there are real risks of losing what people fought so hard before us to earn.

This “velvet mafia” would say that we need pride year.

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Maybe there is a perceived and experienced necessity for it within the community?
Like any social movements, BLM has been filled by different interest groups with different agendas. Like you, there’re many aspects, elements and approaches of the movement, I think, are going a bit far and render a disservice to the overall ethos.

However, looking at it overall and with a historical perspective, as a member of minorities, I know that many of my rights today were fought for and won by the blood and tears of people of other minority races: rights I enjoyed naturally without sometimes even being aware that they wouldn’t be there if others hadn’t sacrificed for them. I’m a beneficiary of those acts.
My own race has done nothing and is likely to do nothing for our rights. It’s a shame. But I couldn’t possibly bring myself to ride on a high horse when I see others struggle to fight for what they believe is fair.

I think it’s very safe to say that I’m one of those the folks in China would categorise as hopelessly and despicably ‘Westernised’.
I’ve never had a Chinese community (other than a few loose contacts I know) for more-than-half of my life spent in this country. I read zero Chinese press (well other than from this site) for as long as I can remember.
My family is here. My school of philosophy and my belief are entirely ‘West’.
Yet, I’ve not for a day mistaken my ethnic identity - that I am a minority in this country and that our rights are won by others when we sit on a couch.

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最喜欢看楼上两位写作文啦!

Again, all I wanted is to enjoy a pop corn movie, not a political debate.

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Nothing wrong with that! x

That is completely fair.

For the film however, given the creation of black panther character is inspired by the political movement itself, I think it will always have to be political, given it is the very core of the franchise.

So I totally understand that why you would want to skip this one, but I wouldn’t say it’s “spoiled” by political debates.

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Because it is a racist movement

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No maybe, no but, racist is racist, no matter how fancy their covers are.

There is a tendency that all sorts of racists realized that they can not do it by their own. Now they just want all the racists are hand in hand, if not dick by dick. That sounds contradictory, but that is how the social justice movement evolves to an even wider class war, militant, socialistic or even communist movement.

And I gather you’re not one?

Honestly, not everything in this world has got something to do with a ‘communist’ movement, or with China.

And since people in these forums are so living in the Chinese politics, I dare say some spirits of communism against tyrannies are perhaps what’s actually needed over there - there was none.