看隔壁申请大学帖子那么火,向大家介绍一下一个新型的大学学位,学徒学位degree apprenticeships.
很多中型,大型企业,政府下属机构,都有degree apprenticeships. 本科一般5年,每周工作四天,在大学学习一天。收入大概2万多,个人不负大学学费。
我觉得孩子如果学术上不是顶尖,但是性格成熟,交流能力强,学理工科,完全可以考虑走学徒学位的路。
优点是花销小,学习的同时,积攒了很多的工作经验,人成长的很快。毕业了工作更好找,很多在本企业能够更快晋升。
缺点是,又工作又学习,比较辛苦,很多大学生活的social经历,譬如住学校宿舍,clubbing, student society 都没时间经历。大企业的学徒学位,竞争也非常激烈。
以下是政府网站,有进一步介绍。
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@Chef can you use Chinese to introduce the degree apprenticeships in the UK?
Chef
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quantumch说,看到申请大学帖子那么火,我来向大家介绍一个新型的大学学位,学徒学位degree apprenticeships。
很多中型,大型企业,政府下属机构都有degree apprenticeships,本科一般5年,每周工作四天,在大学学习一天。收入大概2万多,个人不用负担大学学费。
我觉得孩子如果学术上不是顶尖,但是性格成熟,交流能力强,学理工科,完全可以考虑走学徒学位的路。
优点是花销小,学习的同时,积攒了很多的工作经验,人成长得很快。毕业后工作更好找,很多在本企业能够更快晋升。
缺点是,又工作又学习,比较辛苦。很多大学生活的社交经历,例如住学校宿舍,clubbing,student society都没时间参加。大企业的学徒学位,竞争也非常激烈。
以下是政府网站,有进一步介绍。
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巧了,我认识的一个老师的大儿子就是申请的这个,他拿到的是CAT的。让我佩服的是孩子爸爸剑桥的数学系毕业,孩子一路私校成长,最后选择这条途径,他爸爸和我说孩子的选择让他都眼前一亮。
这个能达到大企业的offer,不比牛腱差,学到的东西太多了,非常值
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我知道一个女孩子,英国本地人,家里有农场,申请了十来个apprenticeships,都没成功,后来参加海军,受过培训后,在舰上负责engineering一块,她父母怕她不喜欢海军改主意,要她defer了 拉夫堡大学的工程专业
我觉得大家都在英国生根了,孩子都是二代了,千万不要还是只局限于那种中式刷牛校,拼G5的思维,多想想如何运用英国给自己年轻人创造出来的职业路径
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寂寞侯
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老老实实读个大学,不要搞这种,虽然我知道这个是个途径
寂寞侯
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你以为英国人自己不拼牛剑,不刷G5? 暗地里补习 比中国人还狠,尤其是中上产,他们知道教育是稀缺资源,需要去争取的,而且教育也是为数不过跨越阶层的办法,看看现在英国首相就知道了
教育的真谛在于因材施教,找到合适孩子的路径,人生也不是只有一条定义成功的标准,看的是一辈子的综合水平
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当然啊,BSc degree 加apprenticeship certificate
哦,去查了一下提供degree apprenticeships的大学清单
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Anglia Ruskin -there are a number of schemes offered within each of these areas:
- Business & Management
- Digital, Data & Technology
- The Built Environment
- Nursing & Healthcare
- Policing
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Aston, Birmingham
- Chartered Manager
- B2B Sales
- Digital Marketing
- Electronic System Design
- Health Care Science: Audiology
- Transport Planning
- Manufacturing engineer
- Supply Chain Management
- Plant/Process Engineer
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Birmingham
- Digital & Technology ( with PWC)
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Birmingham City
- Broadcast Technology
- Chartered Surveyor
- Chartered Manager
- Construction
- Architecture
- Engineering - Aerospace, Manufacturing, systems design
- Audit
- Nursing
- Healthcare
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Bucks New University
- Chartered Manager
- Assistant Practitioner
- Digital and Technology Solutions Professional
- Design Engineer
- Registered Nurse
- Nursing Associate
- Senior Leader
- Academic Professional
- Advanced Clinical Practitioner
- Police Constable
- Social Worker
- Post Graduate Engineer
- Operating Department Practitioner
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Chichester
- Business, Management and Digital Marketing
- Digital
- Engineering
- Social Work
- Teaching
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Coventry
- Construction
- Digital/IT
- Engineering & Manufacturing
- Health & Life Sciences
- Legal, Finance & Accounting
- Policing
- Management, Leadership & Business Admin
- Teaching
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East London
- Chartered Manager
- Civil Engineer
- Civil Engineering Site Manager
- Digital and Technology Solutions Professional
- Geospatial Mapping and Science
- Registered Nurse
- Nursing Associate
- Teacher
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Essex
- Computer Science and Electronic Engineering
- Health and Social Care
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Exeter
- Digital & Technology Solutions (with Ageas)
- Civil Engineering
- Finance
- Business Management
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Greenwich
- Quantity Surveying
- Pharmaceutical Sciences
- Nursing & Midwifery
- Digital & Technology Solutions
- Engineering ( Manufacturing)
- Chemical Engineering
- Electronic Systems Design
- Chemistry
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Hertfordshire
- Digital & Technology Solutions
- Engineering
- Biomedical Science
- Chartered Manager
- Nursing
- Occupational Therapist
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John Moores, Liverpool
- Construction Management
- Quantity Surveying
- Building Services Engineering
- Business & Management
- Civil Engineering
- Engineering
- Nursing
- Social Work
- Health Care
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Kingston
- Civil & Infrastructure Engineering
- Quantity Surveying
- Building Surveying
- Environmental Science
- Nursing
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Lincoln
- Business Management
- Engineering
- Food & Drink Manufacturing, Science & Technology ( Higher & Degree)
- Nursing
- Social Work
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London South Bank - a range of roles available in each area
- Built Environment & Architecture
- Engineering
- Health & Social Care
- Business
- Law & Social Sciences
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Manchester Metropolitan
- Healthcare
- Nursing
- Social Work
- Digital & Technology
- Laboratory Scientist
- Chartered Manager
- Digital Marketing
- Retail Leadership
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Northumbria - a range of programmes in these areas:
- Architecture, Built Environment, Construction
- Digital, Tech & Creative
- Engineering & Manufacturing
- Financial & Legal Services
- Health, Sport & Social Care
- Education
- Leadership & Management
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Oxford Brookes
- Chartered Surveyor
- Digital & Technology Solutions
- Nursing
- Clinical Practitioner
- Social Work
- Chartered Manager
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Newcastle
- Digital Technology
- Education
- Power Engineer
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Nottingham Trent - a range of programmes available in these areas:
- Agriculture, Environmental and Animal Care
- Business & Administration
- Childcare & Education
- Construction
- Digital
- Food & Drink
- Health & Science
- Law
- Social Care
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Portsmouth
- Architecture
- Surveying
- Engineering
- Biomedical science
- Chartered Manager
- Project Manager
- Police Constable
- Teacher
- Nursing
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Queen Mary, London
- Digital & Technology Solutions
- Chartered Manager
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Sheffield Hallam - programmes available in these areas:
- Architecture and chartered planning
- Construction and chartered surveying
- Digital and technology
- Engineering
- Food and drink
- Health and social care
- Healthcare sciences
- Leadership and management
- Policing
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Solent, Southampton
- Construction & Built Environment
- Digital, Technology & Commuting
- Digital Marketing
- Project Manager
- HR
- Health & Social Care
- Chartered Manager
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Sunderland
- Digital Community Manager
- Digital and technology
- Chartered Manager
- Engineering Practice
- Healthcare
- Teaching
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Warwick
- Applied Engineering
- Civil and Infrastructure Engineering
- Computer Science and Technology Solutions (Data Analyst)
- Computer Science and Technology Solutions (Software Engineer)
- Digital Technology Solutions (Data Analytics)
- Digital Technology Solutions (Network Engineering)
- Digital Technology Solutions (Software Engineering)
- Digital Healthcare Science
- Engineering
- Social Work
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West London
- Cyber Security
- Data Analyst
- Business Analyst
- Civil Engineering
- IT
- Software engineering
- Chartered Surveyor
- Nursing
- Chartered Manager
- Police Constable
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West of England, Bristol (UWE)
- Architecture
- Business Management
- Construction, Property & Surveying
- Computer Science & Creative Technologies
- Engineering
- Health
- Nursing & Midwifery
- Physiotherapy & Occupational Therapy
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Winchester
- Digital & Technology
- Cyber Security
- Data Science
- Business Management & leadership
- Nursing
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寂寞侯
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隔壁论坛也有同样的帖子,我觉得这个人说的很好,我复制下:
简单来说,在大学读的本科生学位,属于full time academic degree, 走学术level体系。
Apprenticeships,就是公司或者工厂开的,不上课,上班,然后再自己搞一点课程这样的,然后发职业技术的level体系。
怎么说,前者是高等教育,HEI的教育,这一种培养是按照HEI的规定培养的学生,课程是综合的,学习研究方法的,比如说不管你学什么专业,你要都要学基础课程和基础方法论。
Apprenticeship是技术为主的,跟学校的课程不算一个概念。
怎么说呢,从我做招生工作的角度来说,虽然说Apprenticeship degree相当于level 6-7的教育体系,但是不是每一个大学每一个专业都认。Apprenticeship 本科毕业要申请硕士,我们学校是不认的。但是不排除这个学位可能在工业界比较受认可。
我同事是Apprenticeship degree,她在我们学校做technician, 她自己在open university补了一个engineering的本科,然后最近为了申请博士,又重新读了一个Mphil,Mphil过了才能申请博士
但是跟全日制不一样的啊,因为课程是选择上的,而不是综合的课程。比如engineering这个degree,很多学生是不学方法论和基础理论的。而且能够选择的大学基本上都不是综合排名高的大学。出的学位也是不一样的,所以如果以后要继续深造,尤其是走学术方面,很多学校还是不认的
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Apprenticeship degree和普通大学degree 证书是不一样的?
寂寞侯
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隔壁帖子,我个人觉得学徒是个窄路,没有正常本科教育宽
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那蛮奇怪的,上面说“我同事是Apprenticeship degree,她在我们学校做technician, 她自己在open university补了一个engineering的本科”,一样的degree证书不应该啊。
我本来是怕学位证书不一样,以后想移民去别的国家,不按正规大学本科毕业对待
Degree apprenticeship 更重要的的是employers, 你可以去我上面放的政府的网站搜一下employers,很多选择,包括大公司,上面一个网友提到的CAT, 还有辉瑞,GSK
Degree apprenticeships是学生和employers 双向选择
寂寞侯
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人家全文说了啊,他们那不认可啊,所以才去补了学位,